tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post3970465370930242283..comments2023-09-04T18:23:22.834-04:00Comments on White Rose: Sincere and Simple Thoughts: The Hobbit 30 Day Challenge - Day 7Fabolaktukohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04061891235841638236noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-40963680603161325482014-01-09T23:22:45.717-05:002014-01-09T23:22:45.717-05:00So glad you liked it. Thank you. So glad you liked it. Thank you. Fabolaktukohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061891235841638236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-37689093338965813432014-01-08T17:40:43.727-05:002014-01-08T17:40:43.727-05:00This is a really great piece.This is a really great piece.Servetushttp://meandrichard.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-24019041652802042472014-01-05T20:20:12.290-05:002014-01-05T20:20:12.290-05:00Thank you CDoart! I've felt alone also about m...Thank you CDoart! I've felt alone also about my view of Bilbo, so good to know that we aren't alone. <br /><br />(SPOILER)<br />If you get a chance to watch the film a second time, pay special attention when Smaug is talking to Bilbo about the Arkenstone, you can see that the stone is close to Bilbo but keeps sliding away. Smaug goes into a rant about wanting Bilbo to have the Arkenstone so he can take it to Thorin, and see him get even worse from the Dragon Sickness. I think we're supposed to think Bilbo is now worried about Thorin's mental well being. I agree with you that Dragon-Sickness is something PJ developed as well, it's not really in the book in the way RA talks about the development of his character. Will be interesting to see what happens in Film 3.Fabolaktukohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061891235841638236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-31163694202202465812014-01-05T18:22:39.125-05:002014-01-05T18:22:39.125-05:00Thank you for this post, Fabolaktuko! I always tho...Thank you for this post, Fabolaktuko! I always thought I was alone with so much disliking Bilbo's position and sneaky behaviour, while I could fully understand Thorin's position.<br />Though what I read into the second film so far, was a clear tendency to dragon-thickness for Thorin, more decidedly than it is embedded in the book, which leaves that mercifully quite open.<br />Where do you see the friendship-reasoning for Bilbo? I must have overheard something of his arguing with the dragon Smaug. But so far, I only saw the second film only once and may have to see it more often to get that part.CDoarthttp://cdoart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-3112322066162837022014-01-05T11:56:44.331-05:002014-01-05T11:56:44.331-05:00Hi Micra, I'm so glad you said that about the ...Hi Micra, I'm so glad you said that about the change in DOS with the Arkenstone. I've been surprised that not that many have mentioned that change from the book, or maybe I haven't looked in the right place. Of all the changes in the last part of the film, of DOS, that was the moment that astounded me the most. Yet I feel many have overlooked it, or haven't read the book. But yes, PJ has changed it so that now we believe Bilbo has a motive based on concern for Thorin. That is an important change from the book. Just as you say, they've changed the balance. I don't know what path the third film will follow frankly. We know the sad end will follow the book, but how will they get there now? Fabolaktukohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061891235841638236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7843411604449664157.post-22092726226977309322014-01-05T11:16:50.712-05:002014-01-05T11:16:50.712-05:00I totally agree, as you I never liked Bilbo that m...I totally agree, as you I never liked Bilbo that much and I think PJ, FW and PB tried to change the balance in the movies. Letting Bilbo know that Arkenstone will drive Thorin crazy, they gave Bilbo the reason to hold it for himself. Just to save Thorin's mind and justifying his later actions. I can't be sure, but I suppose the movie will follow this path. I never understood why Bilbo behaves like this in the book and never been fond of him. I often disagree with Tokien ethics and point of view, so no surprise :-)Micrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405833284497299586noreply@blogger.com